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Differences between Windows XP and Windows Vista (OEM editions) [Feb. 1st, 2007|09:13 am]
Douglas Spencer
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I was setting up a new PC for someone the other day, and a question came to me.

Poll #918345 Differences between Windows XP and Windows Vista (OEM editions)

After purchasing a new computer with Windows XP pre-installed, it is quicker ...

to uninstall all the random useless bloatware that the vendor pre-installs
2(6.5%)
to wipe the disk and re-install windows properly from scratch without any bloatware
4(12.9%)
I'm still running Windows 95, 98, NT or ME
1(3.2%)
I never buy PCs with software pre-installed
3(9.7%)
I always wipe the unit and install Linux
0(0.0%)
I've never had a new PC
0(0.0%)
my machine came with Mac OS
9(29.0%)
what are these "computers" of which you speak?
0(0.0%)

After purchasing a new computer with Windows Vista pre-installed, it is quicker ...

to uninstall all the random useless bloatware that the vendor pre-installs
1(3.6%)
to wipe the disk and re-install windows properly from scratch without any bloatware
6(21.4%)
I'm still running Windows 95, 98, NT or ME
2(7.1%)
I never buy PCs with software pre-installed
3(10.7%)
I always wipe the unit and install Linux
0(0.0%)
I've never had a new PC
0(0.0%)
my machine came with Mac OS
9(32.1%)

I own this many computers:

Mean: 5.67 Median: 5 Std. Dev 4.88
0(0.0%)
1
7(21.2%)
2
5(15.2%)
3
3(9.1%)
4
1(3.0%)
5
3(9.1%)
6
1(3.0%)
7
3(9.1%)
8
3(9.1%)
9
1(3.0%)
10
3(9.1%)
11
0(0.0%)
12
1(3.0%)
13
0(0.0%)
14
0(0.0%)
15
0(0.0%)
16
0(0.0%)
17
0(0.0%)
18
0(0.0%)
19
0(0.0%)
20
2(6.1%)

Your puny poll does not fit my unique and special needs.

I have commented
6(23.1%)
Ticky!
14(53.8%)
Edit: Argh, there was supposed to be a "what are these" answer to the second question too. Also, where it says "95, 98, NT or ME", pretend it mentions 2000.

I have a side-bet with myself about the likely contents of the comments. I'll tell you whether I won later. See sbisson's thread.
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Comments:
[User Picture]From: ang_grrr
2007-02-01 09:15 am (UTC)
My recent experiences mean I find your poll too triggering to complete.
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[User Picture]From: dougs
2007-02-01 09:19 am (UTC)
I should have had a "you insensitive clod!" answer.
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[User Picture]From: alex_holden
2007-02-01 09:22 am (UTC)
My boss phoned this morning to say, "If anyone asks, Vista is officially a pain in the arse."
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[User Picture]From: sbisson
2007-02-01 09:25 am (UTC)
I did find a script that "de-Delled" XP boxen quite effectively...

However the Vista installer is much faster than XP's, and you can walk away from it. I'm looking at building myself a custom slipstream disk with Vista and Office images.
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[User Picture]From: dougs
2007-02-01 09:33 am (UTC)
Your first sentence half-triggered the bet with myself -- I anticipated that someone would link to it. It used to be called "Dell Decrapifier", but is now called "PC Decrapifier" for legal reasons. It's available free from http://www.yorkspace.com/pc-de-crapifier/

In version 1.7, from January 3rd 2007: "I have not yet tested this on Vista. Theoretically it should work, but I’ve had one report that it did not run. Hopefully I’ll get access to a Vista machine soon to test. (There’s no way I’m upgrading my personal machine)"
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[User Picture]From: ramtops
2007-02-01 09:32 am (UTC)
I use Macs as my desktop and laptop machines, and Pete uses Linux. When I absolutely *have* to use Windows (which I do for browser testing, so all the bloody time), I use a Virtual Machine which runs W2K. Which you left out of your poll ..
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[User Picture]From: frandowdsofa
2007-02-01 09:36 am (UTC)
I have a Big Man who buys my new computers for me and sets it all up ...
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[User Picture]From: drplokta
2007-02-01 09:36 am (UTC)
My computer count includes anything with more memory and CPU power than my first PC, which means it includes two phones and two PDAs.
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[User Picture]From: hawkida
2007-02-01 09:55 am (UTC)
And your PVR and your washing machine and...?
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[User Picture]From: purplecthulhu
2007-02-01 01:40 pm (UTC)
I included my phone as well on the same basis, but did not include devices that I own but don't use (this theoretically includes a SE Z1010, a Palm TC, a Z88, a BBC Micro, shares in an Alpha box and some other bits and pieces too numerous to mention, and a broken Ti Powerbook).

I only have two windows devices - a PC I use almost exclusively for gaming, and my phone, which I am getting increasingly annoyed with.
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[User Picture]From: daveon
2007-02-02 07:25 pm (UTC)
I did warn you about the Universal. The Hermes (the little slider keyboard) is a better radio device. HTC pretty much threw the Universal together to get a 3G into the market quickly.
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[User Picture]From: purplecthulhu
2007-02-02 07:37 pm (UTC)
Indeed you did, though its mostly WM5 and its flakiness, especially in talking to Macs, that's my main annoyance. I still like it as a 'mobile word processor' and am tempted to retain it in that role. I don't think the Hermes keyboard would work for me - it seems just too small. So current plan is to junk Orange unless they come up with a *much* better mobile data deal at the end of my current contract, and move to T-Mobile with Web'n'Walk and a (free with contract) smaller device to handle voice and data (say a SE M600i but their whole range will have probably changed in a month) while I can still use the Universal to type when I'm in planes or where I can't use a laptop. Data transfer then won't be an issue as i won't be trying to Sync stuff, and can just use my USB/SD card....

But that's probably all more information then you need to know! Sorry for rambling!
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[User Picture]From: cobrabay
2007-02-01 09:37 am (UTC)
I have no personal experience of Vista boxes, so my comment was based on the experience of a colleague who has used it (in beta). My experience of XP boxes may be somewhat skewed by the fact that doing software builds from scratch is a small part of my job description, though these days I'm more likely to be building a Solaris box than a Windows one, and the Windows box is more likely to be W2K or W2K3 servers.
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[User Picture]From: del_c
2007-02-01 02:26 pm (UTC)
Our CIO was complaining last year that the moment was fast approaching when Windows 2000 would be out of support, and we really ought to get XP. I guess that's never going to happen now.

I assume MS Inc. had decided they had already just about got the maximum revenue out of companies buying XP because W2000 had expired.
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[User Picture]From: kevinrtaylor
2007-02-01 10:03 am (UTC)
I was going to tick "I have commented" and then not comment.

Instead I have done it the other way round.

P.S. What are these "windows" of which you speak?
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[User Picture]From: seph_hazard
2007-02-01 10:03 am (UTC)
The shiny new laptop is running Vista.

When my father first came hope with it and announced that it was no longer possible to buy a Windows machine running anything else, my face fell and I decided that I'd wipe it as soon as I could and run the thing off Ubuntu.

But actually, after having been using it for a few days, I think I rather like it. It's growing on me, and fast. It's a lot like the current Mac OS, actually, and it's fairly fast. And you can make it pink. And I do really like the new sidebar thing. And I think I'm going to keep it.

I have heard all sorts of evil conspiricy theories about it, though. Big Brother Gates Is Watching You and all that.

And I never really liked XP...
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[User Picture]From: waveney
2007-02-01 10:42 am (UTC)
The main problem with the poll is that it is very black and white, On some machines I have Linux, on some I have software pre-installed, many run other OSs. Counting up the computers is a difficult task, I clicked 20 (maybe could have ticked 30?), but had the question been how many are in common use it would only have been about 6 or 7.
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[User Picture]From: aperrott
2007-02-01 10:45 am (UTC)
While I own at least 8 computers, only 4 of them are in more or less daily use and it's quite likely that there are more than 4 in the loft. :-)
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From: pmcmurray
2007-02-01 11:00 am (UTC)
I included my computers, Julies computers, the work laptop and the PDAs, but not phones. We are a mac household. We have 2 pcs for playing games (though I have plans...) and three macs for work and communication and watching stuff purposes.

I'm getting a new work laptop, but they plan to wipe everything it comes with and reinstall the company's standard installation which is XP SP2, Office, Lotus Notes and various other bits and pieces. I'm forbidden quite strictly to install anything on it, but they did put firefox on when I asked.
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[User Picture]From: watervole
2007-02-01 11:59 am (UTC)
There's no box for "I would do something intelligent but I haven't a clue how" This is the function of husbands/boyfriends.
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[User Picture]From: quercus
2007-02-01 12:38 pm (UTC)
Where's the ticky box for "Win2K was the last decent Windows worth bothering with" (OK, 2003 for servers).

Anything new is getting Ubuntu.
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[User Picture]From: perlmonger
2007-02-01 02:20 pm (UTC)
What ramtops said. FWIW, the count here currently stands at:

OS X - 3
linux (Ubuntu) - 2
W2K/AS - 1
linux (TiVo) - 1
linux (Axis webcam) - 6

plus one scratch box in bits, currently with ubuntu and XP hard drives in it, and various VPCs on Mac's box and VMware images on the two linux boxen running W2K, XP or W2K/AS. No Vista yet.

oh, and three linux servers at RedBus :)
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