Log in

No account? Create an account
If you don't know what this is about, don't worry. - Songs of innocence and of experience [entries|archive|friends|userinfo]
Douglas Spencer

[ userinfo | livejournal userinfo ]
[ archive | journal archive ]

[Friends| (full) (people) (communities) (both) (feeds) (friendsfriends) ]
[Using| (new) (rec) (clu) (inb) (tag) (bot) (adm) (mod) (poll) ]
[Other| (DJ) (DW) (IJ) (JF) (Scribbld) ]
[Me| (AoOO) (eF) (FB) (GP) (LI) (Tu) (Tw) (Wk) ]
[Links| (AVDAR) (Exchange) (il_calmo) (LGCM) (ZZ9) ]

If you don't know what this is about, don't worry. [Oct. 5th, 2009|09:21 pm]
Douglas Spencer

In order to dispel any doubt that there may be over my opinion on the matter:

Firstly, It's my firm belief that the correct response of a convention committee hearing criticism of their convention, or its current or previous committees, is to prove those critics wrong by running a great event.

Secondly, it seems to me that banning your critic from your event, refusing to enter into any online discussion on the matter, and refusing to discuss it with any other persons, seems (on the face of it) to be a little odd.

Thirdly and finally, I'm trying to remember any occasion when a committee has banned a critic and then refused to discuss it, and then gone on to find that their public image has improved in any way. No success yet.

Anonymous comment spam:
2011-01-29 19:21 (from
2011-03-05 20:59 (from

[User Picture]From: annafdd
2009-10-07 09:40 am (UTC)
He used to run Octocon. He wasn't very happy with how it went lately and said so. Loudly (I mean loudly on Twitter). And repeatedly. And he's friend of lots of important people so he got listened to. But honestly, loads of other people were Not Impressed by the lastest Octocons.

As for threatened part, that may or may not refer to the incident at Octocon 2007, where the sound from a movie got piped in through the PA system in the other two rooms, one of which was the one in which the GoH was giving his GoH speech.

At this point various people, including Juliet McKenna, where getting up and threatening action. Commitee members were searched for and not found, apparently having left the con to run on its own. And not having conducted a sound check.

Padraig got the sound turned off by shouting, because at that point shouting was the only way to make oneself heard.
One famous author, btw, at the same con, took one of the commitee members aside and explained in a lot of detail all of the things they should fix if they ever wanted to run a con again. She has said that she won't set foot in another Octocon unless she hears glowing reports for two years running. Octocon used to pull in 300 people, and is now down to around 50.

Padraig meanwhile founded - and then stepped down from but keeps supporting - another con. In Dublin, although it moved to the spring not to crowd Octocon in. This convention, called PhoenixCon, is very successful, attracts a lot of people, attracts a lot of guests, and is basically eclipsing Octocon.

What I am saying is that Padraid is a pain in the ass, who will complain loudly, in details and relentlessly about what other cons do wrong, while running an extremely successful con himself. What he does not is assault people, spread rumors, attack for the sake of attacking, and being generally disruptive. I've read his opinions about Octocon. They are substatiated and widely shared.

By the way, he was singled out by the chair at the closing ceremony of Octocon 2008 for his help and contribution. So he can't be ALL that terrible. And the woman who decided to ban him did so without ever apparently having clapped eyes on him.

ETA: I obviously meant something metaphorically but in the current climate I realized it's better to be safe. Edited to this.

Edited at 2009-10-07 09:45 am (UTC)
(Reply) (Parent) (Thread)